
- •Irony or a greater wealth of humor or imagery, or more dramatic power.
- •In the ideal State which is constructed by Socrates. The first care
- •Inconsistency which is obvious to us. For there is a judgment of after
- •Is still worth asking," because the investigation shows that we can
- •In the introduction only, Polemarchus drops at the end of the first
- •In the first book we have more of the real Socrates, such as he is
- •In his sleep for fear, and he is filled with dark forebodings. But
- •I say, any similar liability to fault or defect, and does every art
- •Interest of the body?
- •If you change, change openly and let there be no deception. For I
- •Very true.
- •Idea that they are going to have any benefit or enjoyment themselves,
- •I do not think that I misapprehend your meaning, Thrasymachus, I replied;
- •Injustice the defect of the soul?
- •In the service of the king of Lydia; there was a great storm, and
- •Instantly he became invisible to the rest of the company and they
- •I was going to say something in answer to Glaucon, when Adeimantus,
- •Vice may be had in abundance without trouble; the way is smooth and
- •In either case should we mind about concealment? And even if there
- •Injustice or praised justice except with a view to the glories, honours,
- •Very true.
- •In request, and nurses wet and dry, tirewomen and barbers, as well
- •I entirely agree with you, he said; in my opinion those stories are
- •Iambic verses occur --or of the house of Pelops, or of the Trojan
- •I entirely agree, be said, in these principles, and promise to make
- •Is that the good man will not consider death terrible to any other
- •I would he even with thee, if I had only the power, or his insubordination
- •Inconsistent passions, meanness, not untainted by avarice, combined
- •I understand, he said.
- •If then we adhere to our original notion and bear in mind that our
- •Is overtaken by illness or love or drink, or has met with any other
- •Inform him that in our State such as he are not permitted to exist;
- •Very true, he replied.
- •Images wherever they are found, not slighting them either in small
- •In the days of Asclepius; and this I infer from the circumstance that
- •In anything from his usual regimen, and so dying hard, by the help
- •I mean this: When a carpenter is ill he asks the physician for a rough
- •In his life if he were deprived of his occupation?
- •Impediment to the application of the mind t in carpentering and the
- •Intemperate subjects, whose lives were of no use either to themselves
- •I will, if I can. Let me however note that in the same question you
- •Infer the crimes of others as he might their bodily diseases from
- •In him, having no taste of any sort of learning or enquiry or thought
- •I suppose that you mean houses, he replied.
- •I think, he said, that there is no need to impose laws about them
- •In which the citizens are forbidden under pain of death to alter the
- •It is the knowledge of the guardians, he replied, and found among
- •Influences which would prepare them to take the dye of the laws in
- •In all these modes of speaking the same person is denoted.
- •I proceeded to ask: When two things, a greater and less, are called
- •Very true.
- •Verified?
- •I perhaps ought to have said before in the proper place. The part
- •I should rather expect, I said, that several of our proposals, if
- •In saying that men and women, whose natures are so entirely different,
- •Is a hindrance to him?-would not these be the sort of differences
- •Very true.
- •I should like to ask you a question.
- •I mean, I replied, that our rulers will find a considerable dose of
- •In some mysterious, unknown place, as they should be.
- •I was saying, will be forbidden to inter-marry. This, however, is
- •I hardly like even to mention the little meannesses of which they
- •I approve.
- •In the first place, that he is of the golden race?
- •In what respect do you mean?
- •It ought to be, he replied.
- •I agree, he said, that our citizens should thus deal with their Hellenic
- •I was only going to ask whether, if we have discovered them, we are
- •Very true, he said.
- •I am sure that you will admit a proposition which I am about to make.
- •I will begin by placing faculties in a class by themselves: they are
- •Is to know the nature of being?
- •In the first place, as we began by observing, the nature of the philosopher
- •Impossible.
- •Is to have a full and perfect participation of being?
- •In a court of law, or a theatre, or a camp, or in any other popular
- •Impossible.
- •Into a sanctuary, take a leap out of their trades into philosophy;
- •Is there any champion of justice at whose side they may fight and
- •Virtue --such a man ruling in a city which bears the same image, they
- •I think that they will be less angry.
- •Very true.
- •I understand, he replied, and give my assent, and accept your arrangement.
- •Imagine once more, I said, such an one coming suddenly out of the
- •Very true.
- •Instruments in binding up the State.
- •Into our former scheme?
- •Invariable, indivisible, --what would they answer?
- •I agree, he said.
- •Very true.
- •In every action of their lives and in every branch of knowledge come
- •In houses such as we were describing, which are common to all, and
- •Injustice, as Thrasymachus advises, or in accordance with the conclusions
- •Incapable of carrying on any war. Either they arm the multitude, and
- •In their old age end as paupers; of the stingers come all the criminal
- •Very true.
- •Very true.
- •Vain conceits shut the gate of the king's fastness; and they will
- •Very true, he said.
- •Into his head; and, if he is emulous of any one who is a warrior,
- •In relation to each other.
- •Inevitably.
- •Very true.
- •Is making promises in public and also in private! liberating debtors,
- •If he is to rule, I suppose that he cannot help himself.
- •I can imagine him.
- •I should not wonder.
- •I imagine, I said, at the next step in his progress, that there will
- •Very true, I said. But imagine one of these owners, the master say
- •In less real being will be less truly and surely satisfied, and will
- •Is no division, the several parts are just, and do each of them their
- •Into one.
- •If he be right, it is profitable for this creature to feast the multitudinous
- •In their hearts a guardian and ruler like our own, and when this is
- •If you please.
- •Is said, Homer was greatly neglected by him and others in his own
- •In like manner the poet with his words and phrases may be said to
- •It will make a great difference whether he is seen or not.
- •In the way of that which at the moment is most required.
- •Inconceivable greatness.
- •Into the upper world, but the mouth, instead of admitting them, gave
- •In this world dedicated himself from the first to sound philosophy,
- •In the arts; and far away among the last who chose, the soul of the
- •Is immortal and able to endure every sort of good and every sort of
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Inconsistency which is obvious to us. For there is a judgment of after
ages which few great writers have ever been able to anticipate for
themselves. They do not perceive the want of connection in their own
writings, or the gaps in their systems which are visible enough to
those who come after them. In the beginnings of literature and philosophy,
amid the first efforts of thought and language, more inconsistencies
occur than now, when the paths of speculation are well worn and the
meaning of words precisely defined. For consistency, too, is the growth
of time; and some of the greatest creations of the human mind have
been wanting in unity. Tried by this test, several of the Platonic
Dialogues, according to our modern ideas, appear to be defective,
but the deficiency is no proof that they were composed at different
times or by different hands. And the supposition that the Republic
was written uninterruptedly and by a continuous effort is in some
degree confirmed by the numerous references from one part of the work
to another.
The second title, "Concerning Justice," is not the one by which the
Republic is quoted, either by Aristotle or generally in antiquity,
and, like the other second titles of the Platonic Dialogues, may therefore
be assumed to be of later date. Morgenstern and others have asked
whether the definition of justice, which is the professed aim, or
the construction of the State is the principal argument of the work.
The answer is, that the two blend in one, and are two faces of the
same truth; for justice is the order of the State, and the State is
the visible embodiment of justice under the conditions of human society.
The one is the soul and the other is the body, and the Greek ideal
of the State, as of the individual, is a fair mind in a fair body.
In Hegelian phraseology the State is the reality of which justice
is the ideal. Or, described in Christian language, the kingdom of
God is within, and yet develops into a Church or external kingdom;
"the house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens," is reduced
to the proportions of an earthly building. Or, to use a Platonic image,
justice and the State are the warp and the woof which run through
the whole texture. And when the constitution of the State is completed,
the conception of justice is not dismissed, but reappears under the
same or different names throughout the work, both as the inner law
of the individual soul, and finally as the principle of rewards and
punishments in another life. The virtues are based on justice, of
which common honesty in buying and selling is the shadow, and justice
is based on the idea of good, which is the harmony of the world, and
is reflected both in the institutions of States and in motions of
the heavenly bodies. The Timaeus, which takes up the political rather
than the ethical side of the Republic, and is chiefly occupied with
hypotheses concerning the outward world, yet contains many indications
that the same law is supposed to reign over the State, over nature,
and over man.
Too much, however, has been made of this question both in ancient
and in modern times. There is a stage of criticism in which all works,
whether of nature or of art, are referred to design. Now in ancient
writings, and indeed in literature generally, there remains often
a large element which was not comprehended in the original design.
For the plan grows under the author's hand; new thoughts occur to
him in the act of writing; he has not worked out the argument to the
end before he begins. The reader who seeks to find some one idea under
which the whole may be conceived, must necessarily seize on the vaguest
and most general. Thus Stallbaum, who is dissatisfied with the ordinary
explanations of the argument of the Republic, imagines himself to
have found the true argument "in the representation of human life
in a State perfected by justice and governed according to the idea
of good." There may be some use in such general descriptions, but
they can hardly be said to express the design of the writer. The truth
is, that we may as well speak of many designs as of one; nor need
anything be excluded from the plan of a great work to which the mind
is naturally led by the association of ideas, and which does not interfere
with the general purpose. What kind or degree of unity is to be sought
after in a building, in the plastic arts, in poetry, in prose, is
a problem which has to be determined relatively to the subject-matter.
To Plato himself, the inquiry "what was the intention of the writer,"
or "what was the principal argument of the Republic" would have been
hardly intelligible, and therefore had better be at once dismissed.
Is not the Republic the vehicle of three or four great truths which,
to Plato's own mind, are most naturally represented in the form of
the State? Just as in the Jewish prophets the reign of Messiah, or
"the day of the Lord," or the suffering Servant or people of God,
or the "Sun of righteousness with healing in his wings" only convey,
to us at least, their great spiritual ideals, so through the Greek
State Plato reveals to us his own thoughts about divine perfection,
which is the idea of good --like the sun in the visible world; --about
human perfection, which is justice --about education beginning in
youth and continuing in later years --about poets and sophists and
tyrants who are the false teachers and evil rulers of mankind --about
"the world" which is the embodiment of them --about a kingdom which
exists nowhere upon earth but is laid up in heaven to be the pattern
and rule of human life. No such inspired creation is at unity with
itself, any more than the clouds of heaven when the sun pierces through
them. Every shade of light and dark, of truth, and of fiction which
is the veil of truth, is allowable in a work of philosophical imagination.
It is not all on the same plane; it easily passes from ideas to myths
and fancies, from facts to figures of speech. It is not prose but
poetry, at least a great part of it, and ought not to be judged by
the rules of logic or the probabilities of history. The writer is
not fashioning his ideas into an artistic whole; they take possession
of him and are too much for him. We have no need therefore to discuss
whether a State such as Plato has conceived is practicable or not,
or whether the outward form or the inward life came first into the
mind of the writer. For the practicability of his ideas has nothing
to do with their truth; and the highest thoughts to which he attains
may be truly said to bear the greatest "marks of design" --justice
more than the external frame-work of the State, the idea of good more
than justice. The great science of dialectic or the organization of
ideas has no real content; but is only a type of the method or spirit
in which the higher knowledge is to be pursued by the spectator of
all time and all existence. It is in the fifth, sixth, and seventh
books that Plato reaches the "summit of speculation," and these, although
they fail to satisfy the requirements of a modern thinker, may therefore
be regarded as the most important, as they are also the most original,
portions of the work.
It is not necessary to discuss at length a minor question which has
been raised by Boeckh, respecting the imaginary date at which the
conversation was held (the year 411 B. C. which is proposed by him
will do as well as any other); for a writer of fiction, and especially
a writer who, like Plato, is notoriously careless of chronology, only
aims at general probability. Whether all the persons mentioned in
the Republic could ever have met at any one time is not a difficulty
which would have occurred to an Athenian reading the work forty years
later, or to Plato himself at the time of writing (any more than to
Shakespeare respecting one of his own dramas); and need not greatly
trouble us now. Yet this may be a question having no answer "which