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9. Don’t try to become overinvolved - let things happen (technically and personality based) and only step in when it is required.

3.2.3.2 - The Overlap of Engineers and Architects

•In cases where engineers oversaw construction projects they were convicted for acting as architects. [Rex v. Bentall] In other cases this was not so. [Regina v. Margison and Associates, Limited]

•A Joint Practice Board was set up between the PEO and OAA (Ontario Association of Architects) to resolve disputes involving members and questions about the boundaries of the professions.

3.2.4 HISTORY OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING IN ONTARIO

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1922 The APEO (Association of Professional Engineers of Ontario) was formed under a provincial statute, but did not go as far as making licences mandatory.

1937 At the urging of members of the engineering profession the provincial government changes the engineering act to make licences mandatory, and setting up the APEO as a self regulating body allowed to impose regulations and maintain discipline.

1961 A referendum approved regional chapters. These act as local organizations that provide programs of interest and communicate as groups with council via the regional congresses.

1970 The role of the Council is redefined in the Professional Engineers Act, Chapter 366, Revised Statutes of Ontario 1970. (The Council governs the PEO). The membership was expanded to include one layperson, and one member of the Ontario Bar.

1984 The Professional Engineers Act, Statutes of Ontario is now the currently active legislation

3.2.4.1 - The Role of The PEO

•It’s primary role is to “govern the practice of engineering to serve and protect the public” *Note: The PEO is not a labor union for collective bargaining.

•Self governing

•responsible to the people of Ontario for,

-registration and licensing

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-maintenance of professional standards

-social implications

-providing a code of ethics

•The engineering act is a “closed” practice statute including control of,

-engineering titles

-admission to the PEO

-setting of qualification standards

-professional misconduct

-the ability for the PEO to offer certain services

•the PEO allows entry of engineers, and then later can hold judgement if they are questioned technically or ethically.

•the engineering act can only be changed by the Ontario legislature, while the bylaws, that are administrative in nature, can be changed by membership referendum.

•the council membership is 23,

-5 are appointed to represent disciplines (3 year term)

-chemical and metallurgical

-civil

-electrical

-mechanical, aeronautical and industrial

-mining and geology

-1 is an appointed member of the Ontario Bar (3 year term)

-1 appointed layperson (3 year term)

-10 elected regional members (2 year term)

-2 elected members at large (2 year term)

-4 executives,

-president

-past president

-1st vice president

-2nd vice president

•generally council,

-oversees administration of the PEO

-reviews all applications for registration

-defines misconduct

-provides specialist and consultant designations

-may put forward by-laws for membership referendum

-directs various boards and committees

-etc.

•council meets 4 times a year. An interim council consists of the,

-president

-past president